Different Weapon Combinations

Star King · Post by **Star King** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:06 pm

One of the best and neat variables of this great game is trying to figure out the best weapon combinations in conjunction to the ship your piloting.
What I have learned in playing this game is the weapons systems for fighting the Vonari are different then for PvP battles.
I love to experiment and last night tried to use a flarebeam and Max-R cannons with various lasers (refractory laser, Coil, Fusion) against Cindy.
And some cases these combinations barely scratched her paint. The fun part of this game is having a person like Cindy who is honest, tell you the actual damage done to her ship.

[Edited on 12-25-2008 by Star King]

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:00 pm

It is not only the different weapons and ship combinations, it also depends on your skill and experience and your opponents!.....

[Edited on 12-1-2011 by Maarschalk]

Busch · Post by **Busch** » Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:09 am

And, whether you fly crewed or not.

Star King · Post by **Star King** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:11 pm

This just my opinion but a veteran pilot in a evoch with a razor/metal vapor set-up has no chance of destroying a rookie pilot in a Chimera with an ice spear/coil laser system. I don't care how good the pilot in the Evoch is! The proof is in the last man standing contest everyone (and there are some awesome pilots playing) use a Chimera.
Maarscalk in Legends I agree! But in Mercenary no way! This game although similar is way different in PvP and combat. It has been a tough transition relearning how to fight here because years of playing Legends and flying an Evoch with quick loading excalibers. In my four months of playing Mercenary hasn't cancelled out my Legends habits.
I also believe another factor is your computer set-up. Mercenary demands a lot more from your PC then Legends ever did.
This just my thoughts!
Your skill and experience will just help you escape or if your silly die against a newbie pilot in ship designed to take and give a pounding.

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:16 pm

Which last manstanding competition are you talking about StarKing? You can not compare a Last Man standing to a 1 against 1 PvP. Last manstanding competetions have rules and are confined to a specific space and time. If you are saying that an experienced skilled pilot in an Evoch-E with a Razor Cannon and a Metal Vapor can not take out a rookie in a Chimera in a PvP then the pilot in the Evoch-E is not skilled and the pilot in the Chimera is not an unskilled Rookie!......An Evoch-E can dance circles around a Chimera at the 300 range and the Chimera will not be agile enough to turn and get a lock on the Evoch-E and the Evoch-E will pound the Chimera with Rage and Linxs making the IceSpear/Coil laser useless. And even without missiles the Evoch-E can get easily on the Chimera's Six and pound it at close range 300 meters with the Razor and Metal Vapor lasers. And the Evoch-E can stay easily out of the firing range of the Chimera. It might take the Evoch-E a long time to get on the Chimera six but patience and the knowledge of how to use missiles and wich ones to use in combination with your Guns is also one of the virtues of a skilled pilot!.......

LOL, another thing I just realized, to fly a Chimera there is no way you can be a rookie! So your reasoning is Bogus StarKing.........

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[Edited on 12-7-2011 by Maarschalk]

Dingo · Post by **Dingo** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:48 am

basically everything Maars said.

Star King · Post by **Star King** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:11 am

In Legends the Evoch was my ship of choice but in Mercenary I never see anyone flying it in contracts or any PvP and unless some one makes a rule against disagreeing the proof is in the number of Evoch's being used.
Which we both know is zero, unless its a newbie climbing the ranks. I made 5 billion in my first 2.5 months of playing EM.
Secondly, flying contracts and getting rank is not the same as PvP experience. So your point is incorrect.

Dingo · Post by **Dingo** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:59 am

Evoch is a superior PvP ship. period.

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:02 am

From post: 120770, Topic: tid=8192, author=Star King wrote:In Legends the Evoch was my ship of choice but in Mercenary I never see anyone flying it in contracts or any PvP and unless some one makes a rule against disagreeing the proof is in the number of Evoch's being used.
Which we both know is zero, unless its a newbie climbing the ranks. I made 5 billion in my first 2.5 months of playing EM.
Secondly, flying contracts and getting rank is not the same as PvP experience. So your point is incorrect.

I mostly fly the Evoch-E for contracts and missions. It saves me time to complete contracts faster cause I can get on the enemies six faster with an Evoch-E. For PvP if I have time and I know the Pilot I'm up against I base my choice of weapons and ship on the knowledge I have of my opponent. Sometimes I'm in a hurry and do not have the patience to use an Evoch-E to get on the six of a skilled experienced pilot in a Lamprey or FireStar which are my second and third choice of fighter!...But I choose an Evoch-E anytime against a Chimera! But getting to the rank to get to fly the Chimera you have a lot of experience and know how to handle your ship and weapons so your not a rookie when you fly a Chimera even granting that PvP is different then fighting AIs. And there are even players that I went up against that never had experience with PvP before that where flying a Chimera and I beat them in my Evoch-E with a FlareBeam and Refractor laser. When I do not have the patience or time that is when I loose a battle in my Evoch-E in PvP against an experienced skill full player regardless what the player I'm up against is flying!.......

:P

SeeJay · Post by **SeeJay** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:01 am

I'm totally with Maars on this one.

I have faced Dingo in his Evoch many times and it's always a even fight.
The only reason I'm able to take out his Evoch is that I know how to handle my ship.
If I was a noob I would get killed every time. No doubt about that.

Imho Pilot skill is what it's all about in EM. What ship you fly and what load-out you have is secondary.

Star King · Post by **Star King** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:09 pm

You guys are silly, I have never seen Dingo or Maars (Legends yes) using a Evoch!
Secondly, why fly an Evoch when a Fire Star is faster, has more armor and is a better handling ship.
I just checked out your HB clan forum news and funny thing this topic was covered and InkMike had almost the same position as I stated above.

Dingo · Post by **Dingo** » Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:20 pm

From post: 120804, Topic: tid=8192, author=Star King wrote:You guys are silly, I have never seen Dingo or Maars (Legends yes) using a Evoch!
Secondly, why fly an Evoch when a Fire Star is faster, has more armor and is a better handling ship.
I just checked out your HB clan forum news and funny thing this topic was covered and InkMike had almost the same position as I stated above.

Evoch is faster than a firestar and has 105 agility as well. Where did you read those ship stats

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:57 am

From post: 120804, Topic: tid=8192, author=Star King wrote:You guys are silly, I have never seen Dingo or Maars (Legends yes) using a Evoch!

Silly?, yes, most of the time!....But because you have never seen me fly an Evoch-E does not mean that I do not fly one most of the time! And I only remember seeing you 3 or 4 times online in EM and that does not mean you are never online in EM!
And only once or twice I engaged you in a PvP and the only times I destroyed you I was actually flying an Evoch-E! And the first time I destroyed you was when I was trying to increase the bounty on my head by clan [TM] and I told you I had to come and destroy you for that, and after I did destroy you, you called me silly to! Silly is relative so I take it with a grain of salt, it just taste a little better that way......

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SeeJay · Post by **SeeJay** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:28 am

Oh yes, very silly indeed. We do escape the fantasy world of work, family stuff etc and enter
the real world of Evochron to get on with our lives.

Get into our ships and fight our butts off out there.

As I said, I have fought several pilots using a Evoch and will most likely encounter those
fights again. The Evoch is to agile for my kind of fighting since I tend to overshoot
my aiming when turning fast. That's why I normally don't use it but I do fly it every now and then to learn
how to master that ship as well.

I still claim that a skilled pilot in a Evoch is very dangerous. Even if you are skilled yourself and have better
armor. 1 mistake and your gone.

Star King · Post by **Star King** » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:08 pm

Dear Maar,

Please don't take it so bad. Silly is better then other words and as See Jay rightfully said we are playing a fantasy game.
So what laser/cannon combination would you use in your Evoch against a Chimera? Does that change against another Evoch?
I didn't realize how sensitive you are.
I am on every night with Busch on the Remula server. Yesterday, I flew where you were to see your Evoch but you left just as I was coming.
Maybe I can see your bird of prey one day.

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:52 am

From post: 120864, Topic: tid=8192, author=Star King wrote:Dear Maar,

Please don't take it so bad. Silly is better then other words and as See Jay rightfully said we are playing a fantasy game.
So what laser/cannon combination would you use in your Evoch against a Chimera? Does that change against another Evoch?
I didn't realize how sensitive you are.
I am on every night with Busch on the Remula server. Yesterday, I flew where you were to see your Evoch but you left just as I was coming.
Maybe I can see your bird of prey one day.

Every one has some issues they are sensitive to, I have only a few! And this case is not one of them....LOL...

:P

The answer to your question is, it all depends on how well I know the other pilot what He/She is flying is second to knowing the weakness of your opponent. And I do not want to give a way my choice of weapons. With certain ships it will differ for various ships for various reasons against other ships!;):P:P:P:P:P:P

Star King · Post by **Star King** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:31 pm

Dear Maar,

This game has hidden secrets, which give you and others that little extra edge. Thanks for being honest as usual.
Newbies are always asking me and I always try to help. The most helpful pilots I see that play are: Busch, See Jay, InkMike, Remula, Marvin, Denny and Dingo are usally the most helpful.

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:01 pm

From post: 120896, Topic: tid=8192, author=Star King wrote:Dear Maar,

This game has hidden secrets, which give you and others that little extra edge. Thanks for being honest as usual.
Newbies are always asking me and I always try to help. The most helpful pilots I see that play are: Busch, See Jay, InkMike, Remula, Marvin, Denny and Dingo are usally the most helpful.

Yep, and for me to keep that little extra edge and one of the biggest kept secret is relatively a great burden for a Mr. Muchtalk.....

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Star King · Post by **Star King** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:40 pm

I agree Mr. Muchtalk should be silenced!!!!! Lets get him!!!!!!!!:P

Maarschalk · Post by **Maarschalk** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:09 pm

LOL.....many have tried and failed on their first attempts......

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Post by **DaveK** » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:30 am

From post: 120775, Topic: tid=8192, author=Dingo wrote:Evoch is a superior PvP ship. period.

I agree - if you have skill and the reflexes of a youngster

Once I ranked up enough I flew a Evoch-E and a FireStar for a while (nearest I'll ever get to a sports car:P) and they are great fun but . . .

At my age I found that I can survive longer trading speed and agility in return for armour. I still get slaughtered by the experienced agile team though!

It's another great aspect of EM and Vice's planning - a space combat system I feel I can actually play in because the ships I can handle have sufficient advantages!

I also agree that LMS is a very different sport than free pVp, especially inside a cave - much more strategy and sneaking - hence the disadvantages (for some) of the Chimera weren't such an issue.